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Appearance
Is there a specific reason that the colors are capitalized under the Appearance header? RaD Man 17:44, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Alternate Meaning
'Purple Heart' is also the slang name for triangular blue Drinamyl amphetamines commonly used as recreational drugs in the 1960s. I have the feeling that this piece of information belongs in a different article with a disambiguation pointer in this one, but have not yet found a suitable place to deposit it. If anyone knows a place... ThomasHarte 11:20, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
Purple Thank You Cards Video
Medal Picture
Husnock, I personally think the gif image you just added might not be a good idea. The ribbon and the medal look blue, IMHO. What we could do is put the medal device at top, leave the ribbon in place and use a picture of George Washington later in the article (a different one). Zscout370 18:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The pictures look great. Thanks -Husnock 02:00, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
Common Title for war movies
Term "Purple Heart" has been used at least 3 times as the title for war movies. See imdb.com for details.--The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bbirrell (talk o contribs) 05:47, 11 June 2005.
Contradiction
"During the Vietnam War, Korean War and World War II, the Purple Heart was often awarded "on the spot", with occasional entries made into service records, but this was often not the case."
"First part of the sentence says the purple heart was often awared.....this was often not the case"
I would recommend a clarification on this point.--The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.232.230.198 (talk o contribs) 13:22, 2 August 2005.
Orgins
I once read that the name purple heart originated from the use of purple heart (the wood) for cannon frames, because it was the only wood strong enough to stand up to the repeated blasts. If anyone can validate this please add it. Either way there should be at least some mention that purple heart is also a type of wood, maybe a line at the top that says, "it's also a type of wood" with wood linking. Vicarious 19:11, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
Bot Needed
I came across Category:Recipients of the Purple Heart medal today and realized that it did not list very many people. I figured it would be a clever thing to do to search Wikipedia for articles that contain the phrase "Purple Heart" and add any recipients to the category. Well, we have hundreds of articles on Purple Heart recipients. I have added the top 10 pages worth of Google hits, but now I'm wondering if someone could write a bot to do this. The automated process would have to take into accont that the award is linked to from non-bio articles, such as books, lists of medals, etc. We don't want them all tagged, just the people. Can anyone help with the creation of such a bot? Johntex\talk 20:48, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Supply & Manufacture
The Operation_Downfall page, and this source page says that the current supply of Purple Hearts was manufactured for WWII, and they have been using that stock ever since, with some limited manufacture in '76 and '00. There are supposedly about ~120,000 left from WWII. Should this be mentioned, assuming it's true? Also, who manufactures them? Identity0 09:34, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
Recipients
If there's a list (I couldn't find one), might add this name: Lt Annie Fox, on 7 Dec 1941 first woman awarded. Trekphiler 15:13, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
Merge Notice
I OPPOSE the merge with Badge of Military Merit. My reasons are listed on the talk page of the Badge of Military Merit. -Husnock 23:47, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Friendly Fire
So are Purple Hearts awarded for injuries sustained from friendly fire during battle? --Mcginnly 12:15, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
It should also be noted that during the WWII and the Korean War that severe frostbite was considered an acceptable wound for the Purple Heart. Clearly the regulations today prohibits frostbite as an acceptable wound. Many veterans have appealed to the Board of Military Records Correction and been awarded the Purple Heart for frostbite.
Stubby the Dog
The Sergeant Stubby trivia comes from the Wikipedia article on him that was featured on the main page. Can we put it back in? MamaGeek Joy 11:42, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Denial examples
For the record, those examples are straight from the regulation regarding issuance of the Purple Heart on file at the Military Personnel Records Center. There was an anon ip user concerned that it was original research. -Husnock 22:17, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Response from Armydude06
Thanks for the note. The Military Personnel Records Center is a respository, NOT the proponent for Awards....only a collection of awards. Clearly the information you cite is also quoted from 600-8, pull down the regulation and you will see this is the case. So it is odd, that you would censor my edit and cite quoting from a source as being against Wikipedia protocol. I am an active duty Colonel, i have been deployed to 5 combat theatres and appreciate your current service, but please do not misleadingly lead folks to believe that criteria for approval and disapproval for this award are adjudicated and validated by a collection center in Saint Louis, when they are in fact dictated by the leadership of the Armed forces in the form of legal regularions, in his case AR 600-8. I am a combat arms officer and feel your criteria is off base. That being said, you have taken the time to do what few others would. Great site and hats off for you to taking the time to work on all of the se articles. -email response 11Oct06
OK, am not sure how to use this user talk thing but as i said earlier, first few times on this site. Clearly no intent to wipe out anything or take credit for your hard work. on the contrary, i applauded your efforts. On some of your other points, i was under the belief that the Army Regulation is the proponent for this award, even in the other services as the only other governing regulation is an Executive Order which only authorizes its creation and does not prescribe the conditons for issue and award. I am in combat and in the fight, we had six purple hearts that went out to our troopers today alone, so getting this right is really less about having some debate with a guy who clearly knows the ins and outs of this website and knows a whole lot about the awards process. About a private email, i thought that was the more professional way to discuss this with you -- especially since i didnt realize my stuff had edited yours, when i checked it was still your original text and i just figured you read my note and disagreed. Sorry about any ruffled feathers. Thanks. -unsigned comment by User:Armydude06
Does this need to be in here?
While I appreciate that this is all factually true and well-cited, it seems unnecessary:
In an Oval Office ceremony on April 16, 2007, President George W. Bush accepted a Purple Heart presented to him by a Vietnam War veteran, who said the President had earned the medal by enduring verbal criticism from the public. Explained the veteran: "We feel like emotional wounds and scars are as hard to carry as physical wounds."[2][3] While there is no prohibition against legitimate purple heart recipients giving away medals, such "emotional wounds" are clearly not covered by the criteria for service members as outlined in B 2.and B 5. above.
In May 2006, a soldier made national headlines after giving his Purple Heart to a girl who had written many letters to troops. [4]
In May 2007, Vietnam veteran Jerrell Hudman announced that he planned to give one of his three Purple Hearts to George, a Jack Russell terrier. George died from injuries sustained when he saved a group of five children from being mauled by two pit bull terriers in New Zealand. [5]
It doesn't seem to have a lot of relevance on learning about the purple heart decoration. Anyone have any comments? - CredoFromStart talk 14:20, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Completely relevant -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.92.56.236 (talk) 23:12, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
Criteria section cleanup
The section should probably be written as an encyclopedia, not as a lengthy recitation of a source document. Thoughts? --TeaDrinker 03:45, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Most awarded under trivia
Is there an actual source that can be cited for this? Curious because I'm working on an article for someone with 7, but don't want to say it's the second highest number without a citation.Horrorshowj 22:47, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Most awarded under trivia
http://www.militaryforpaul.com/video.html
Most Awarded seems to be 11?
Also most trivia awarded might be put in history of the award... --Alanofverity 22:38, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure about the most awarded, but Joe R Hooper also recv'd 8 purple hearts and should be mentioned. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.250.33.252 (talk) 20:30, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Whether the most awarded is 9 or 11, a couple of things should be in the article. 1) The name or names of the person awarded the most Purple Hearts and 2) the number awarded. Of course, it should go without saying that there needs to be a legitimate, verifiable resource for that information. To only say that an Army soldier has 9 Purple Hearts without giving that soldier's name while giving several names of people who have received 8 Purple Hearts is bad research. Otherwise, I could say my dad received 12 of them - and he wasn't in active combat.Jtyroler (talk) 23:38, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Where is the name for the Army veteran who has 9? 65.30.220.209 (talk) 18:51, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
500,000 manufactured? (in trivia)
Under trivia there is a note about how 500 thousand metals were manufactured prior to the canceled Japanese invasion of WWII. The link to the source has since been broken. This info just seem out of place anyways, even in the trivia section. Somebody needs to find a new citation (I haven't been able to) or else it should be deleted. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.61.219.59 (talk) 01:36, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Potential Inaccuracy
Moved here from WP:ODM by Woody (talk) 13:50, 27 February 2008 (UTC). Added to ODM on 2008-02-02 by SpacemanSpiff27 (talk · contribs) with these edits: diff.
The Purple Heart wiki article mentions (under the "History" sub-heading) that the Purple Heart medal was limited to qualifications "subsequent to 5 April 1917, the day before the United States entered World War I" and also mentions (under the "Retroactive presentations" sub-heading) that "The Purple Heart, however, is retroactive to 1917 meaning that it may be presented to veterans as far back as the First World War." But this is not entirely correct. There were veterans who served as far back as the Civil War who were awarded Purple Hearts because they were still alive and had applied for them after the Purple Heart was reinstated in 1932. In "VFW Magazine," Feb 2004, Fred Borch and Steve Kupecky state the following: "The War Department decided in 1932 that any veteran who had been wounded in any Army campaign could apply for the new decoration. As a result, about 10 Union veterans from the Civil War applied for--and received--the Purple Heart. So did a small number of soldiers who had served in the Indian campaigns, Spanish-American War (1898), Philippines War (1899-1902), Boxer Rebellion in China (1900) and the Punitive Expedition into Mexico (1916). Several Union veterans proudly wore their Purple Hearts at the 75th reunion of the Battle of Gettysburg in 1938." Here is an online reference to the article: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0LIY/is_5_91/ai_113304762
Archival Records are closed to the Purple Heart
There are several references in the article that those wounded and families of those wounded from World War I and World War II may apply for this medal. As of 2008, this is no longer the case. Military service records older than 62 years (which is most if not all of the WWII and WWI files) have been transferred from the U.S. Army to the NPRC. Archival records are not updated with new medals and can no longer be transferred back to the military departments for determination of the Purple Heart. The standard procedure for people wanting Purple Hearts added or verified from such records is to respond that the medal may be privately purchased. The only exception if the veteran him/herself is writing for the medal and in such a case it must ALREADY be on file in either the original service record or the reconsturction folder (1973 National Archives Fire). I will update the article when I have time, but right now there is incorrect data here about these older records. -207.245.178.155 (talk) 18:50, 26 March 2008 (UTC):I also should point that one of the sections at the bottom of the article was cut and pasted directly from Army regulations and might be considered a copyright violation or, at the very least, un-original text copied from another website. -207.245.178.155 (talk) 18:55, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
BTW, the Army rescinded this policy but the Navy and Air Force did not. The Army will review and update the PH in archival military records for all veterans and NOK, but the Navy & Air Force will only do it for the veteran. -OberRanks (talk) 18:34, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
What about
What about the Military Order of the Purple Heart? Philly jawn (talk) 15:08, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Lack of Citations
This article suffers from an overall lack of citations, made the more glaring by its length and (apparent) depth. While there are a few references, they appear to relate to sidelights and small issues, while the main part of the article consists of strings of unsourced statements (some of them rather dubious). Does anybody have real sources to contribute? --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 15:54, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Robert Mueller
It says he has got one on his page. Should he be listed under Notablle Recipients? --ScythreTalkContribs 06:27, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Moved Here
Moved the below section here, since its become obsolete due to BRAC. There is an office in Fort Knox now that handles all the award determinations for the Army. Also, this appears to have been a strictly Army specific section, and was slightly misleading as this is not how USAF, USN, USMC, or USCG vets would go about getting a replacement PH Medal.
Unsupported Statement in History
The actual order includes the phrase, "Let it be known that he who wears the Military Order of the Purple Heart has given of his blood in the defense of his homeland and shall forever be revered by his fellow countrymen." This statement is not supported by any portion of the Washington Papers available via loc.gov, nor does it match any account of Washington's spoken words. The quote appears to be the title card from a 1944 movie starring Dana Andrews, and the source is of dubious authorship.Washhq (talk) 17:55, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Notable recipients and recipients of the most Purple Hearts
Good evening all. I reordered the list of notable recipients and recipients of the most Purple Hearts alphabetically, as I understand that to be a best practice. Splitting up recipients by conflict is problematic as there are some recipients who received the medal in more than one conflict. If any takes exception to this please let's discuss it here. Additionally, on the list of recipients of the most Purple Hearts it would appear that the current community consensus is 8 or more. One editor keeps adding a recipient who has 7, and I am not sure why. Cheers. EricSerge (talk) 01:34, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
To Lotje: Could you explain your logic in trimming the descriptions in the notable section? While I can see removing mentions of who was a presidential candidate at one time, I'm not sure why Pat Tillman is referred to as "Pat." Is there a guideline or essay you're looking at for this list? Chris Troutman (talk) 07:20, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
20th C design changes
i seem to remember once seeing a purple heart with mother-of-pearl where the purple enamel goes. it also seems like older ones had enamel and newer ones might be using expoy-paint or plastic resin. anyone *know*? Cramyourspam (talk) 00:15, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
stars and oak leaf's on the same ribbon?
Lemuel C. Shepherd, Jr., USMC, is listed on wikipedia- in the article, on the cited sources, and in the photo, with a P.H. with 2 Oak Leaf Clusters and a star. From what I can gather, he was wounded twice at Belleau Wood (WW One), a third time in the Spring Offensive (also WW One), and a fourth time at Okinawa (WW Two). Was it something peculiar to do with the WWI service being under the American Expeditionary Forces? Thanks, Gecko G (talk) 20:14, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
Decoration?
Can a medal that is automatically awarded for any death or injury, whether inflicted in combat or by accident, be called a decoration?Royalcourtier (talk) 03:53, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
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So, since it's not in any of the other categories the Purple Heart is a decoration. Chris Troutman (talk) 04:18, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Curry Haynes
To JBedsole: As I explained on my talk page, I have doubts about the veracity of these claims. I'm not going to edit war over it but I guarantee you're going to feel silly if you're proved a liar. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:00, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
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